Most pre-med students choose to major in something related to the medical field, such as Biology or Chemistry. Duke is the one secondary I didn't complete. I need to go to a school where I can get good science grades.

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Going to an easier school just because you think it'll boost your GPA for med school is pretty detestable in my opinion. Its tuition is full-time: $61,170. Just like for the SAT, Duke likely doesn't have a hard ACT cutoff, but if you score too low, your application will get tossed in the trash. If you need assistance with completing the online application, please contact the Duke Human Resource Information Center at 919-684-5600. Premed at Duke is fairly hard, but I don't think it would be harder than at UCLA or Berkeley. Thus roughly 6 out of 7 kids get weeded out in the process. a) Biology The module, titled GMS1000: The Duke-NUS Pre-Med Course is taught by Duke-NUS postdoctoral fellows. The average science GPA for a premed that is accepted into med school is around a 3.5 which only includes math and science courses, and I think 3.6-7 overall. Should I go to Duke or my state school (UCLA/UCB) for the sake of a better GPA? The Duke Office of Health Professions and Advising has such information. Office of Health Professions Advising. I am not a huge studier. But if it's another premed class, say biology, then maybe its 5. For the 2020 incoming PA class, 4,092 CASPA applications were received. I was way more stressed in undergrad than I've been all year.

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I got a few questions and wondered if anyone could help with the answers.

Having been offered a likely I wanted to know what I am in for.

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Just remember, Duke's average MCAT is a 34. In gen chem/orgo/cell bio (if you take cell bio), the curve is basically set so half of the class gets A/B, half gets C/D/F. Admission to the Duke PA Program is very competitive. If you want to come to Duke and get into med school afterwards, you MUST truly love what you're doing otherwise you'll be miserable for 4 years studying. Baylor will be test optional for the 2020-21 admissions cycle. If the courses are all easy, then the science program would be hardpressed to produce high quality graduates.

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yeah, I think I could get into Cornell, Hopkins, ND, or Duke, (definitely not all), but I should probably go to Hamilton, Colgate, or something like that to be safe.

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lol speaking for one of the 6/7 getting weeded out of the pre-med major, I can tell you from first hand...you definitely need to be passionate for it.

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^yeah, pre-law wouldn't work for me. It's primarily used by college students. I participated in a number of 'Signature Duke' programs like the FOCUS program for first-years, Duke Engage (a funded internship somewhere around the world), and more - and these really made the school feel unique. From this group, a class of 90 will be selected. I am wondering why are you lurking in the forum? How many students make it to medical school/what happens if one gets rejected?

Personally, I can't stand it when people have already decided they're going to become doctors before they've even taken their first college class because the vast majority of them will end up doing something else. The School of Medicine at Duke University has an application deadline of Oct. 15. If you're good at memorization, biochem is no problem. I applied to med school last cycle, dropped premed in february, and was admitted to Yale Law School yesterday. The curve for biology/physics/biochem (if you take biochem) is more lenient. Someone graduating with a 3.5 from Duke BME program definitely gets a lot more respect than someone who graduated with a 4.0 from a state school with a mediocre program.

, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. Medical schools are well aware of the rigor of the top programs. Ironically, the better/stronger the department, the tougher it is to get good grades. We also provide individualized guidance, interview preparation, professional editing, and career advising for premed students and applicants to medical school, residency, fellowship and post graduate programs. Could you give me a list or a website of the Pre-Med requirements? The “preparing” tab deals with what classes you should take and how else your should prepare while an undergraduate at Duke. If you go to an easier college for the sole purpose of "I'm just here to get a good GPA for med school," you are putting all of your eggs into the pre-med basket (the very same basket that 6 out of 7 students drop out of).

How difficult is the courseload and material for some current duke pre med students? pre-med is hard! Sure, you might get into med school, but is that what you really want?

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The students at Duke are smart, so you will have to work pretty hard to beat the curves. [quote] Which brings me to my next point:

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85-90% of students who apply to medical school from Duke are admitted. How hard is it to get into Duke and can I get accepted? That means I can easily volunteer and shadow there (just a short walk from my dorm). The Duke-NUS Pre-Medical Module provides a select group of students a unique opportunity to better prepare themselves for entry to graduate medical programmes such as the Doctor of Medicine programme at Duke-NUS. It really depends on the class. 2) One AAMC reports showed that there were 387 applicants from Duke who applied for medical school in 2009. Become a Duke Pre Med. The bottom line is, there are lots of people who get into med school from state schools every year. It feels like Duke is constantly trying hard to provide a unique set of experiences and opportunities for students. Two hundred and fifty applicants were interviewed. Duke prepares you VERY well.

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I know this specific question wasn't asked but I thought I'd throw out there that doing premed as a BME at Duke was quite difficult. The average ACT score at Duke is 34. thanks!

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Question directed at Bluedevilmike heh heh.

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I was also premed at Duke. Some of these courses are math 31,32; chem 151, 152(orgo), Bio 25,26,118; chem 21,22. ~47% (the national average) of UCB/UCLA students are admitted to medical school, which should say something.. This is much, MUCH higher than the national average of ~47%. No offense to those other kids, but we're not just studying for an accounting test, or writing a paper for our journalism class-- we're learning stuff that we're not only going to have to know for the rest of our careers, but we are going to be constantly tested and pushed to our limits within the next years of undergrad and medical school.

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So, you spend a total of 12-16 hours a day studying/doing work?? It's all a great combination that medical school admissions officers like to see.

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I big reason I chose Duke over UCB/UCLA was for better medical school advising and preparation. Roughly 40% of freshmen come in wanting to be pre med, but by the time med school results come in, only about 85-100 people get in to medical school. If you do know that you want to be a medical doctor while you’re still in high school, you should look for colleges that will prepare you well for the career ahead of you. You will need to be in the top half of those classes to get A's and B's if you want to have success in the med school process. Well, Duke isn’t easy. c) your aptitude towards the subject you're studying.

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If you're taking orgo, then yeah, it might be about 10 hours a week. I like sports and want good weather so I am leaning towards Duke. How many hours do you put in a week studying? (DISCLAIMER: People (including some that I know) do get into med school with a C or even two if the rest of their record and MCAT are good.) Learn more about some of the best majors for pre-med students. Duke University Hospital, Duke Regional Hospital and WakeMed North are ranked among the best hospitals in the U.S. for starting or expanding your family. Grade inflating school like Duke saying this to notable grade deflation school Berkeley? Is it difficult to achieve a 3.7+ GPA and be able to have a outside life?

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No one will ever say that the Duke Premed courses are easy. Duke Health is committed to providing needed treatment for all patients regardless of ability to pay. Basically, I want to know: b) your work ethic The 25th percentile ACT score is … I got 2360 on my SATs and will probably graduate as valedictorian. This score makes Duke Extremely Competitive for ACT scores. The application fee at Duke University is $95. But medical schools know this and realize that because of this, a Duke student's GPA may be artificially low. Office of Health Professions Advising. Box 90496 Durham, NC 27705 Phone: (919) 684-5600 Have questions? Internal Candidates may also access the internal gateway via the Duke@Work self-service website under the Candidate Selection tab using their Duke NetID and password. Guidelines for the Premedical or Predental Designation Some of these courses are math 31,32; chem 151, 152 (orgo), Bio 25,26,118; chem 21,22. All the premed courses at Duke are curved to a B-. #6: Duke Not only is Duke one of the best universities in the nation, it also offers a robust pre-med program. Does it include the scores from students who did not submit the application? The average science GPA for a premed that is accepted into med school is around a 3.5 which only includes math and science courses, and I think 3.6-7 overall. I am trying to decide between applying early decision to Columbia or Duke. Most freshmen come in and think "alright B- average not bad, I'll just be above average and get a B or a B+." Under DACO, you will be paired with a practicing doctor, who is a Duke-NUS alumnus, for a two-day taster of what their work entails. Going to UCB/UCLA for the sake of a better GPA will not necessarily be the best move in terms of going to medical school haha.

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20 hours a week is just 4 hours a day. That said while it made it harder for me to get into medical school I think it prepared me very well. I just couldn't force myself to care enough for a negligible chance of admission that I'd have to pay for. sciences. Ironically, a lot of students who get weeded out at Duke in premed would have become doctors if they just went to less prestigious schools and gotten better grades due to weaker competition. Isn't this similar to high school?

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Wow, I must have an easy schedule then.

. Not sure how it is at Cornell, but at Duke the hospital/med school is on campus. And so on.

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There's a lot more I could say about premed at Duke but I won't go off the deep end here.

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I'm premed here at Duke currently, so I'll answer also.

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I spend about 15-20 hours studying for pre-med classes (e.g., orgo, calc, etc). Duke University can be found in Durham, NC, a nonprofit private college which focuses on only a select few programs offered. Applying to Duke University - School of Medicine? d) Physics

, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. They end up getting weeded out for one or a combination of reasons: they're not smart enough, they don't work hard enough, they lack the passion, or they find passion in something else. All my classes started to show me the uglier side of medicine that I was sheltered from in those A.P. In gen chem/orgo/cell bio (if you take cell bio), the curve is basically set so half of the class gets A/B, half gets C/D/F. Average ACT: 34. However, you have to realize the people your competing against are just as smart if not smarter than you. This is the amount a patient who is uninsured will pay for the COVID-19 test only. The school has a 8% acceptance rate ranking it #1 in North Carolina for lowest rate of acceptance.Last year, 3,187 out of 41,947 applicants were admitted making Duke an extremely competitive school to get into with a very low chance of acceptance - even for applicants with the highest scores and grades. Up-to-date premed information for Duke University which is ranked as one of the top 75 Premed MD & DO feeder schools for the 2018-2020 application cycles by MedEdits Medical Admissions. I'd also be doing pre-dental/pre-optometry/pre-FBI physical sciences division, but those all involve the same classes. I got all A's and B's with probably <10 hours per week on average. You will need to be in the top half of those classes to get A's and B's if you want to have success in the med school process. Premed at Duke is fairly hard, but I don't think it would be harder than at UCLA or Berkeley. All the premed courses at Duke are curved to a B-. Why rankings are meaningless, followed by rankings. Isn't this similar to high school? Students get plugged into the pre-med advising program as soon as they walk on campus, and they also have incredible opportunities including health-centered study abroad programs and hands-on research experiences.. "Pre-med" is the term people use to show that they want to go to med school and are taking the classes they need to get there. What’s it like to be pre-med at Vandy?. b) Chemistry However, the bottom line is to your question is that you are definitely going to have to sacrifice some things ; how much you have to sacrifice depends on where you fall on the grading curve.

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So if I'm a pretty good science student, would I be better off doing pre-med at a highly ranked LAC like Middlebury than at Duke, Cornell, Hopkins, Notre Dame, etc.? Duke-NUS Alumni Clinical Observership (DACO) If medicine is a career that you would like to pursue, the Duke-NUS Alumni Clinical Observership (DACO) is a good springboard to gain insights into the profession. I see many of your trollish posts littered through the forum bashing Duke. It is comprised of 254 Collegiate Gothic buildings, on over 8,691 acres, which include Duke Forest. PRE-MEDICAL DESCRIPTION The purpose of pre-medical science course requirements is two-fold: responsibility to contact medical schools for exact course requirements. Your non-refundable $100 e-check tuition deposit must be received by Thursday, April 30, 2021 by 11:59 PM, EST. By Wednesday, June 15, 2021, applicants must "Commit to Enroll" at Duke University School of Medicine and withdraw all other wait list offers from other programs. Approximately 250 of the most qualified applicants will be invited for a personal interview conducted at Duke University Medical Center. What is the best school for premed: Cornell, Duke, Northwestern or Dartmouth?

That's just for ONE premed class of the total four classes you take lol.

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Going to UCB/UCLA for the sake of a better GPA will not necessarily be the best move in terms of going to medical school haha. I like Duke for premed. Duke is located on a suburban campus in Durham, North Carolina. 333 Old Chemistry Building Box 90050 Durham, NC 27708 phone: (919) 684-6221 fax: (919) 660-0488 prehealth@duke.edu The point of a rigorous pre-med program is to test if you really have what it takes and if you really WANT to be a doctor.

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To the OP: yes, it is definitely possible. I'm sorry Duke did not offer you enough aid, but that doesn't mean you need to hate Duke. The classes are hard for all majors. College is all about time management.

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Having a bad GPA at a really tough program is not necessarily a bad thing. Eatsalot, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Soooo to try and clarify, a lot of this depends on

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a) your natural intelligence If students apply without test scores, they will be individually reviewed for Pre-Med approval based on their high school academic record. I have had good success in the medical school application process (multiple acceptances so far). D:

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I think you generally only have like 2 premed classes in a semester so that would be ~3 hours/day per premed class, so about 6 hours/day total? Remember, you’re going to Duke for its excellent academics! Approximately 17,000 students are enrolled at Duke University. However, you should really enjoy your undergraduate years, so take that into account too when you decide to sign your letter of intent to register.

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It shouldn't be ironic that good science programs don't just hand out good grades left and right. 20 hours a week is just 4 hours a day. Most of the students who start as pre-med are only pre-med because they don't know what else to do, plus being a doctor sounds pretty cool (harsh, but realistically pretty true). 333 Old Chemistry Building Box 90050 Durham, NC 27708 phone: (919) 684-6221 fax: (919) 660-0488 prehealth@duke.edu I think everybody would agree that your childish behavior is far worse.

, Eatsalot:That's just for ONE premed class of the total four classes you take lol. Duke Human Resources 705 Broad St. lol you must be a southerner

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33hours, you seem to hate Duke.. Q. After all, if the pre-med curriculum never challenges you, you won't ever think twice about it. There isn't actually a major called "pre-med;" pre-med is just a term to let people know you have plans to be a doctor. If you're good at math, physics is pretty much a breeze. I understand that many students may not make their intention known. Travel+Leisure Magazine named Duke as one of the most beautiful college campuses in the United States. I don't want to get weeded out...

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That's a very good question. What makes the program strong is the rigor of the coursework and the quality of the instruction. In accordance with the CARES Act, Duke Health has established the standard cash price of $39 for COVID-19 testing. I am an American Indian if that matters at all. That means that by being average coming out of Duke, you're at the 91.2–93.6 percentile. I am from California. There are also a ton of research opportunities, especially in the medical … You'll work your tail off. On the right there are links regarding course requirements, sample schedules, etc. The following information describing recent candidates will allow prospective applicants to realistically assess their chances of admission, and to plan accordingly. Duke has good classes, good professors, and smart students. Most incoming students are premed, but a lot of them don't really know what they're getting into, what it's really like, or if it's even worth it? I was wondering if you may know the average # of incoming freshmen aiming for medical schools? It really depends on your natural aptitude and the class. If you want to really make sure that you can make it to med school, just ultimately go to a school that is at or below your level with an okay science program. c) Biomedical engineering 3) What are the numbers of students (class 2011 or 2012) from the following departments:

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This makes me laugh. The vast majority of Duke students are intelligent and hardworking enough that they would have gotten into medical school had they attended a school of a lesser caliber. Most freshmen come in and think "alright B- average not bad, I'll just be above average and get a B or a … It's definitely not easy, especially since most people around you are so ambitious and intelligent.

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1) Was the average MCAT of 34 from all students who submitted application for medical school? Duke Regional Hospital has 369 inpatient beds and offers a comprehensive range of medical, surgical and diagnostic services, including orthopedics, weight-loss surgery, women's services, and heart and vascular services, and also offers care at the Duke Rehabilitation … Some liberal arts colleges actually have pretty darn strong science programs (not sure about Middlebury's). Get up-to-date MCAT scores, application requirements, and more from The Princeton Review. If students are submitting test scores, students must earn a 24/1180 to be pre-med/pre-dent. That said, study times vary widely. ...To me, that's an incredible advantage. ... Reddit's home for wholesome discussion related to pre-medical studies. A. The majority of students admitted to Duke University got an SAT score between 2040 - 2330, or got accepted with an ACT score in the range of 30 - 34. 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